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    I live in California, am a progressive, and I am SO F**KING HAPPY that Prop 10 failed. More rent control is NOT what is needed, it would have led to more landlords being less willing to rent to tenants since there would be less money to be made. People who say otherwise don’t know a lot of smaller non-wealthy landlords like my dad who already are getting killed financially by rent control, which is already out of control in this state, no pun intended. Liberal Twitter isn’t always right and Prop 10 is proof of that. Do diligent nonpartisan research and fight fake news, as most Californians evidently did by defeating Prop 10!

    The YesOn10 movement ran a gigantic misinformation campaign that conned many people I usually agree with like Abby Martin and Bernie Sanders, but I’m so grateful that my fellow Californians, including Republicans, Democrats, and Independents, overwhelmingly saw through that BS which factually would have made the housing crisis much worse. More housing is needed, not more rent control which would lead to more expensive housing in wealthy areas. The celebrities who supported Prop 10 live in richer areas, so they were clueless as to how they were being duped.

    There are some now saying that the Prop bombed only because it had confusing wording. That was never the issue, the problem was with that specific proposal was that it was a terrible idea which would have screwed over tenants and landlords.

    Rent control isn’t some magical solution for liberals to help the homeless, it really does have some significant cons that too often get overlooked, though thankfully not tonight with the deservedly dead Prop 10. http://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/rent-controls-winners-losers

    I feel like I’ve written a lot here, this is just a major victory for my family and many other middle and lower-class families in CA (financially speaking), even if some of them don’t realize it.

    Note to myself: Don’t ever feed the trolls. Don’t get involved in others drama. Don’t let myself be swayed by others predictions, trust my gut more often!

    Note to all others: If you don’t happen to like me, ignore me. It is that simple.

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    I live in California, am a progressive, and I am SO F**KING HAPPY that Prop 10 failed. More rent control is NOT what is needed, it would have lead to more landlords being less willing to rent to tenants since there would be less money to be made.

    The YesOn10 movement led a gigantic misinformation campaign that conned many people I usually agree with like Abby Martin and Bernie Sanders, but I’m so grateful that my fellow Californians, including Republicans, Democrats, and Independents, overwhelmingly saw through that BS which factually would have made the housing crisis much worse. More housing is needed, not more rent control which would lead to more expensive housing in wealthy areas. The celebrities who supported Prop 10 live in richer areas, so they were clueless as to how they were being duped.

    There are some now saying that the Prop bombed only because it had confusing wording. That was never the issue, the problem was with that specific proposal was that it was a terrible idea which would have screwed over tenants and landlords.

    Rent control isn’t some magical solution for liberals to help the homeless, it really does have some significant cons that too often get overlooked, though thankfully not tonight with the deservedly dead Prop 10. http://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/rent-controls-winners-losers

    I’m also a California voter and I’m thrilled that Prop 10 failed. Last I saw, it failed miserably. Hell, I only voted “Yes” on two of the Props, to be honest.

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    I’m also a California voter and I’m thrilled that Prop 10 failed. Last I saw, it failed miserably. Hell, I only voted “Yes” on two of the Props, to be honest.

    Which 2 were they, if you don’t mind my asking? I’m guessing Yes on the Daylight Savings Time one, that seemed pretty sensible to me.

    Most smart well-informed CA voters (aka the ones who voted NO on Prop 10) evidently don’t use Twitter. Good, it is nothing but an echo chamber for ignorance and misinformation most of the time.

    Note to myself: Don’t ever feed the trolls. Don’t get involved in others drama. Don’t let myself be swayed by others predictions, trust my gut more often!

    Note to all others: If you don’t happen to like me, ignore me. It is that simple.

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    Which 2 were they, if you don’t mind my asking? I’m guessing Yes on the Daylight Savings Time one, that seemed pretty sensible to me.

    Most smart well-informed CA voters (aka the ones who voted NO on Prop 10) evidently don’t use Twitter. Good, it is nothing but an echo chamber for ignorance and misinformation most of the time.

    The Daylight Savings one just confused the shit out of me, and I voted no on that one. I voted yes on Prop 2 (Mental Health funds to help the homeless) and Prop 5 (Property Tax transfer initiative).

    So many of the props had horrible wording and were misleading. I’m not one to vote on tax increases in genereal if it isn’t clear what exactly the initiative will do and who it in fact benefits. Some of them sounded good, but in the end I had to vote with my gut.

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    And you are right about Twitter, by the way! Ha.

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    Diet Teridax
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    The Daylight Savings one just confused the shit out of me, and I voted no on that one. I voted yes on Prop 2 (Mental Health funds to help the homeless) and Prop 5 (Property Tax transfer initiative).

    So many of the props had horrible wording and were misleading. I’m not one to vote on tax increases in genereal if it isn’t clear what exactly the initiative will do and who it in fact benefits. Some of them sounded good, but in the end I had to vote with my gut.

    Prop 5 seemed like a scam to me to benefit rich people who want to move houses, but that was a tough nut to crack I’ll admit. I feel pretty duped by Prop 11, which I voted Yes on since it seemed it would force EMT workers to still be on call during their lunch breaks.

    However, it turns out (from what I recently read) that they are already still on call, but the Prop 11 passing would just enable their employers to not compensate them during their work during those breaks.

    I voted Yes on Prop 6 because I figure with CA being the richest state there surely ought to be other ways to pay for road repairs without raising gas prices, which are already ridiculously high compared to most of the country. It wound up being No on 6, so that’s here to stay. I’m honestly not too bummed about that, in spite of what a financial killer those vehicle registration fees are with that tax still in place.

    I also voted Yes on Prop 2, it seemed reasonable and transparent enough for me to confidently vote yes.

    Prop 10 was the big bad monster in my mind, that was the #1 priority to see that it failed. Thank you for your No vote on that one, as confusing as it was for you.

    Note to myself: Don’t ever feed the trolls. Don’t get involved in others drama. Don’t let myself be swayed by others predictions, trust my gut more often!

    Note to all others: If you don’t happen to like me, ignore me. It is that simple.

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    Prop 10 was the big bad monster in my mind, that was the #1 priority to see that it failed. Thank you for your No vote on that one, as confusing as it was for you.

    Of course! I enjoy conversing with you and reading your posts. I’m far from being progressive (I’m very centrist/moderate) and find it refreshing that two people with not-so-similar views can have a meaningful conversation. It’s hard to come by nowadays. I’ve been a member of GD since way back in 2002, but have rarely posted since the re-tooling of the website a few years back. I mostly lurk, only because of the drama, but your thoughtful and insightful posts make me want to be more a part of the group.

    I can only hope that from here on out that our communities, our states and our nation can somehow find a way to work together. I haven’t seen this kind of divide in all my years. But I still have hope.

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    In regards to a history-making election no one seems to be talking about, I wish a hearty and sincere congratulations to Lou Leon Guerrero, the first woman elected Governor of Guam!

    “Guam Has Just Elected Its First-Ever Female Governor”

    http://time.com/5446878/lou-leon-guerrero-elected-guam-first-female-governor/

    Note to myself: Don’t ever feed the trolls. Don’t get involved in others drama. Don’t let myself be swayed by others predictions, trust my gut more often!

    Note to all others: If you don’t happen to like me, ignore me. It is that simple.

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    While losing the Senate and several other races, winning back the House in HUGE. There will actually be a check on Trump, and we can launch numerous investigations against him and his administration.

    On another note, the 2020 cycle has officially started. I’ve been standing for Kamala Harris since Day One, and that won’t be changing anytime soon.

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    Midterms 2018 ROUNDUP:

    A divided Congress, a divided America
    http://www.cnn.com/2018/11/06/politics/2018-election-updates/index.html

    7 takeaways from election night 2018
    http://www.cnn.com/2018/11/06/politics/election-results-takeaways/index.html

    Stacey Abrams refuses to concede Georgia governor’s race
    http://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/georgia-governors-race-stacey-abrams/index.html

    Record number of women elected to the House
    http://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/women-house-senate/index.html

    Colorado elects nation’s first openly gay governor
    http://www.cnn.com/2018/11/06/politics/jared-polis-colorado-gay-governor/index.html

    Republican Ron DeSantis wins Florida governor election
    http://www.cnn.com/2018/11/06/politics/florida-governor-ron-desantis/index.html

    First Muslim women in Congress: Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar
    http://www.cnn.com/2018/11/06/politics/first-muslim-women-congress/index.html

    Sen. Ted Cruz wins re-election in Texas
    http://www.cnn.com/2018/11/06/politics/texas-senate-ted-cruz/index.html

    Democrats to use House majority to launch Trump investigations
    http://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/investigations-house-democrats/index.html

    Nelson calls for recount in Florida Senate race
    http://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/florida-senate-race-bill-nelson-rick-scott-recount/index.html

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    Jeff Sessions is outta there! Major implications for the Mueller probe.

    Jeff Sessions out as attorney general
    http://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/sessions-resign/index.html

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    AG Whitaker Refuses To Recuse Himself From Russia Probe; Will Reject Subpoenas

    Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker has refused to recuse himself from the rigged Russia investigation, and has promised to reject any and all subpoenas issued to President Trump on behalf of the Mueller probe.
    In a sign that Democrats are beginning to panic, Dem leaders, including Nancy Pelosi, have begun insisting that Whitaker recuse himself immediately.

    PELOSI: Given his record of threats to undermine & weaken the Russia investigation, Matthew Whitaker should recuse himself from any involvement in Mueller’s investigation. Congress must take immediate action to protect the rule of law and integrity of the investigation.

    Paul Sperry@paulsperry_

    Not only can Acting AG Matt Whitaker rein in Mueller’s outside-the-scope-of-his-mandate probe, but he can also appoint a second Special Counsel to investigate the origins of the FBI’s “Crossfire Hurricane” probe and investigative misconduct and abuses by Obama DOJ & FBI. #SpyGate

    Apparently Whitaker would also like to ‘Lock Her Up’.

     

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    Diet Teridax
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    Don’t be fooled by tribalism and lies. Fact checking matters even in this dark age of “alternative facts.” That video of CNN reporter Jim Acosta was in fact doctored.

    “PROOF White House Doctored Jim Acosta Video”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfO5oCDJfao

    Also, an expert from the Associated Press:

    “Expert: Acosta video distributed by White House was doctored”

    http://www.apnews.com/c575bd1cc3b1456cb3057ef670c7fe2a

    This is some seriously Orwellian 1984-type shit and anyone who cares about our democracy should be just as concerned about this deception every bit as much as President Trump’s unconstitutional replacement of AG Sessions with his loyal stooge Whitaker with no advise and consent from the Senate, which his party still controls no less!

    Note to myself: Don’t ever feed the trolls. Don’t get involved in others drama. Don’t let myself be swayed by others predictions, trust my gut more often!

    Note to all others: If you don’t happen to like me, ignore me. It is that simple.

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